What airport are you flying in and out of? That might affect things. I'm in New York, and things are fine here for traveling...but if you were in a redder state, I'd be more worried.I'm trying to take into account, not the current situation, but the way the situation is escalating. The way things are right now might not be the same as then, so blue states are safest, I think.I don't know, this whole thing has me so fucked up I don't know what to do or think anymore.MowgOn Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 4:40 PM Jette Goldie <jette.goldie@gmail.com> wrote:so there's a protest on the eve of the Ides of March? Has anyone told Caesar?On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 at 21:36, Deb Counts-Tabor <just.deb@gmail.com> wrote:The currently scheduled protests are for 2/28 (economic strike), 3/4 (general protests by 50501), and I think again on 3/14 (other groups). I would expect there will be something nationwide planned for around 4/15 (tax day) and 4/20 (this one could be a doozy as it's a nazi holiday).Everyone has already addressed other concerns, other than Ian's ability to get in, and that might just depend on the mood of the person at TSA.Sorry for your reason for visiting, but I hope it's smooth.On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 6:25 AM Ellen Rawson <ellenr@fastmail.com> wrote:No worries -- I was thinking more Boston area. :)But about the world... how scary is the US right now? Or is the British media exaggerating?EllenOn Sun, 23 Feb 2025, at 2:11 PM, Grey Malkin wrote:While I and my traveling buddies would love to see you both, we're definitely too far away.LaurieOn Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 8:51 AM Ellen Rawson <ellenr@fastmail.com> wrote:We will be driving up to the Boston area on Sunday, 6th April, so it's just barely a weekend, but it's a weekend.Anyone else? I don't think Beth is here, but I've written to her offlist. Jenna/Gwyn, we'll take you out to dinner if you're not working that night.EllenOn Sat, 22 Feb 2025, at 5:49 PM, Mina Ellyse Warren wrote:I'll be leaving Central PA next month for New Hampshire, and I'm sure I'll still be settling in, but I can probably do the hour and a half drive down there, especially on a weekend (every other Friday off too, but if I had to take a day off work, I definitely could!)And I'd love to see both of you!Cheers,Mina Ellyse
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I'm trying to take into account, not the current situation, but the way the situation is escalating. The way things are right now might not be the same as then, so blue states are safest, I think.
I don't know, this whole thing has me so fucked up I don't know what to do or think anymore.
so there's a protest on the eve of the Ides of March? Has anyone told Caesar?--On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 at 21:36, Deb Counts-Tabor <just.deb@gmail.com> wrote:The currently scheduled protests are for 2/28 (economic strike), 3/4 (general protests by 50501), and I think again on 3/14 (other groups). I would expect there will be something nationwide planned for around 4/15 (tax day) and 4/20 (this one could be a doozy as it's a nazi holiday).Everyone has already addressed other concerns, other than Ian's ability to get in, and that might just depend on the mood of the person at TSA.Sorry for your reason for visiting, but I hope it's smooth.--On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 6:25 AM Ellen Rawson <ellenr@fastmail.com> wrote:--No worries -- I was thinking more Boston area. :)But about the world... how scary is the US right now? Or is the British media exaggerating?EllenOn Sun, 23 Feb 2025, at 2:11 PM, Grey Malkin wrote:While I and my traveling buddies would love to see you both, we're definitely too far away.LaurieOn Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 8:51 AM Ellen Rawson <ellenr@fastmail.com> wrote:We will be driving up to the Boston area on Sunday, 6th April, so it's just barely a weekend, but it's a weekend.Anyone else? I don't think Beth is here, but I've written to her offlist. Jenna/Gwyn, we'll take you out to dinner if you're not working that night.EllenOn Sat, 22 Feb 2025, at 5:49 PM, Mina Ellyse Warren wrote:I'll be leaving Central PA next month for New Hampshire, and I'm sure I'll still be settling in, but I can probably do the hour and a half drive down there, especially on a weekend (every other Friday off too, but if I had to take a day off work, I definitely could!)And I'd love to see both of you!Cheers,Mina Ellyse
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The currently scheduled protests are for 2/28 (economic strike), 3/4 (general protests by 50501), and I think again on 3/14 (other groups). I would expect there will be something nationwide planned for around 4/15 (tax day) and 4/20 (this one could be a doozy as it's a nazi holiday).Everyone has already addressed other concerns, other than Ian's ability to get in, and that might just depend on the mood of the person at TSA.Sorry for your reason for visiting, but I hope it's smooth.--On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 6:25 AM Ellen Rawson <ellenr@fastmail.com> wrote:--No worries -- I was thinking more Boston area. :)But about the world... how scary is the US right now? Or is the British media exaggerating?EllenOn Sun, 23 Feb 2025, at 2:11 PM, Grey Malkin wrote:While I and my traveling buddies would love to see you both, we're definitely too far away.LaurieOn Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 8:51 AM Ellen Rawson <ellenr@fastmail.com> wrote:We will be driving up to the Boston area on Sunday, 6th April, so it's just barely a weekend, but it's a weekend.Anyone else? I don't think Beth is here, but I've written to her offlist. Jenna/Gwyn, we'll take you out to dinner if you're not working that night.EllenOn Sat, 22 Feb 2025, at 5:49 PM, Mina Ellyse Warren wrote:I'll be leaving Central PA next month for New Hampshire, and I'm sure I'll still be settling in, but I can probably do the hour and a half drive down there, especially on a weekend (every other Friday off too, but if I had to take a day off work, I definitely could!)And I'd love to see both of you!Cheers,Mina Ellyse
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--No worries -- I was thinking more Boston area. :)But about the world... how scary is the US right now? Or is the British media exaggerating?EllenOn Sun, 23 Feb 2025, at 2:11 PM, Grey Malkin wrote:While I and my traveling buddies would love to see you both, we're definitely too far away.LaurieOn Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 8:51 AM Ellen Rawson <ellenr@fastmail.com> wrote:We will be driving up to the Boston area on Sunday, 6th April, so it's just barely a weekend, but it's a weekend.Anyone else? I don't think Beth is here, but I've written to her offlist. Jenna/Gwyn, we'll take you out to dinner if you're not working that night.EllenOn Sat, 22 Feb 2025, at 5:49 PM, Mina Ellyse Warren wrote:I'll be leaving Central PA next month for New Hampshire, and I'm sure I'll still be settling in, but I can probably do the hour and a half drive down there, especially on a weekend (every other Friday off too, but if I had to take a day off work, I definitely could!)And I'd love to see both of you!Cheers,Mina Ellyse
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And I would *love* to see you when you're in the area. Let me know what day you'll be here and I'll make *sure* I'm not working :)
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PS We're both well vaccinated. Okay, I never had the rubella vaccine, but that's because I had rubella as an infant.
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On Sun, 23 Feb 2025, at 5:08 PM, Katrina Knight wrote:
> I don't know what the British media is saying, but if you're
> asking about it I think it is safe to say they're exagerating.
> You're not trans or brown-skinned so you're not going to be
> targetted by individuals or government authorities. And you're
> not pregnant so you probably won't die if you need medical care.
>
>
> I live in a very red part of a very blue state. Nothing bad is
> happening to anyone on a person-to-person level. People arem't
> attacking each other or anything like that, at least not any
> more than normal. It is all at the government level. The local
> governments are rushing to do all the awful things they've been
> wanting to do. Franklin County, on the other side of the river
> from me, is trying to demand that the local health department
> stop offering covid vaccines. One of the local school districts
> wants to disobey state law, and the instructions send out by the
> state education department, about not cooperating with ICE when
> it comes to immigrant children. This kind of crap doesn't really
> affect white, English-speaking visitors though.
>
> At some point, things are going to start falling apart if the
> federal funds that have been blocked don't go here they should
> be going, but a couple months isn't enough for the highways to
> fall apart or anything like that.
>
> I do strongly recommend making sure your vaccinations are all
> current and taking reasonable precautions since there are
> outbreaks of diseases (measles, TB, and bird flu are the ones I
> know about) that the federal government is trying to hide.
>
> At 06:24 AM 2/23/2025 Ellen Rawson wrote:
>>No worries -- I was thinking more Boston area. :)
>>
>>But about the world... how scary is the US right now? Or is the
>>British media exaggerating?
>>
>>Ellen
>
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To be honest, I'm more worried about getting in and out of the US. Ian has his ESTA, but you can be turned away with one. He's concerned that something he said on social media would flag him up. I'll go through the long queues with him rather than taking the fast track for citizens, and I'll stay quiet unless necessary.
Remember that, in 2004, because he had an expired Iranian work visa in his passport, he was stopped three times leaving Newark Airport -- when we checked in, at X-ray, and at the gate. When I asked, as a US citizen, why my British husband (with then-blond hair and still blue eyes) was being interrogated again. The response: "How many times has your husband been to Iran, Ma'am?" The answer was once -- for work -- in a plant operated by the South Koreans with an international work force, as I recall. And I reminded the man that it wasn't illegal for UK citizens to travel to Iran.
I also remember checking on my mother in late October 2001 during half term and how surreal the US seemed then. I fear it's going to be even more surreal this time. :(
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On Sun, 23 Feb 2025, at 5:08 PM, Katrina Knight wrote:
> I don't know what the British media is saying, but if you're
> asking about it I think it is safe to say they're exagerating.
> You're not trans or brown-skinned so you're not going to be
> targetted by individuals or government authorities. And you're
> not pregnant so you probably won't die if you need medical care.
>
>
> I live in a very red part of a very blue state. Nothing bad is
> happening to anyone on a person-to-person level. People arem't
> attacking each other or anything like that, at least not any
> more than normal. It is all at the government level. The local
> governments are rushing to do all the awful things they've been
> wanting to do. Franklin County, on the other side of the river
> from me, is trying to demand that the local health department
> stop offering covid vaccines. One of the local school districts
> wants to disobey state law, and the instructions send out by the
> state education department, about not cooperating with ICE when
> it comes to immigrant children. This kind of crap doesn't really
> affect white, English-speaking visitors though.
>
> At some point, things are going to start falling apart if the
> federal funds that have been blocked don't go here they should
> be going, but a couple months isn't enough for the highways to
> fall apart or anything like that.
>
> I do strongly recommend making sure your vaccinations are all
> current and taking reasonable precautions since there are
> outbreaks of diseases (measles, TB, and bird flu are the ones I
> know about) that the federal government is trying to hide.
>
> At 06:24 AM 2/23/2025 Ellen Rawson wrote:
>>No worries -- I was thinking more Boston area. :)
>>
>>But about the world... how scary is the US right now? Or is the
>>British media exaggerating?
>>
>>Ellen
>
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I don't know what the British media is saying, but if you're
asking about it I think it is safe to say they're exagerating.
You're not trans or brown-skinned so you're not going to be
targetted by individuals or government authorities. And you're
not pregnant so you probably won't die if you need medical care.
I live in a very red part of a very blue state. Nothing bad is
happening to anyone on a person-to-person level. People arem't
attacking each other or anything like that, at least not any
more than normal. It is all at the government level. The local
governments are rushing to do all the awful things they've been
wanting to do. Franklin County, on the other side of the river
from me, is trying to demand that the local health department
stop offering covid vaccines. One of the local school districts
wants to disobey state law, and the instructions send out by the
state education department, about not cooperating with ICE when
it comes to immigrant children. This kind of crap doesn't really
affect white, English-speaking visitors though.
At some point, things are going to start falling apart if the
federal funds that have been blocked don't go here they should
be going, but a couple months isn't enough for the highways to
fall apart or anything like that.
I do strongly recommend making sure your vaccinations are all
current and taking reasonable precautions since there are
outbreaks of diseases (measles, TB, and bird flu are the ones I
know about) that the federal government is trying to hide.
At 06:24 AM 2/23/2025 Ellen Rawson wrote:
>No worries -- I was thinking more Boston area. :)
>
>But about the world... how scary is the US right now? Or is the
>British media exaggerating?
>
>Ellen
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I don't know what the British media is saying, but if you're
asking about it I think it is safe to say they're exagerating.
You're not trans or brown-skinned so you're not going to be
targetted by individuals or government authorities. And you're
not pregnant so you probably won't die if you need medical care.
I live in a very red part of a very blue state. Nothing bad is
happening to anyone on a person-to-person level. People arem't
attacking each other or anything like that, at least not any
more than normal. It is all at the government level. The local
governments are rushing to do all the awful things they've been
wanting to do. Franklin County, on the other side of the river
from me, is trying to demand that the local health department
stop offering covid vaccines. One of the local school districts
wants to disobey state law, and the instructions send out by the
state education department, about not cooperating with ICE when
it comes to immigrant children. This kind of crap doesn't really
affect white, English-speaking visitors though.
At some point, things are going to start falling apart if the
federal funds that have been blocked don't go here they should
be going, but a couple months isn't enough for the highways to
fall apart or anything like that.
I do strongly recommend making sure your vaccinations are all
current and taking reasonable precautions since there are
outbreaks of diseases (measles, TB, and bird flu are the ones I
know about) that the federal government is trying to hide.
At 06:24 AM 2/23/2025 Ellen Rawson wrote:
>No worries -- I was thinking more Boston area. :)
>
>But about the world... how scary is the US right now? Or is the
>British media exaggerating?
>
>Ellen
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--We will be driving up to the Boston area on Sunday, 6th April, so it's just barely a weekend, but it's a weekend.Anyone else? I don't think Beth is here, but I've written to her offlist. Jenna/Gwyn, we'll take you out to dinner if you're not working that night.EllenOn Sat, 22 Feb 2025, at 5:49 PM, Mina Ellyse Warren wrote:I'll be leaving Central PA next month for New Hampshire, and I'm sure I'll still be settling in, but I can probably do the hour and a half drive down there, especially on a weekend (every other Friday off too, but if I had to take a day off work, I definitely could!)And I'd love to see both of you!Cheers,Mina Ellyse
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I wish I was on break, I would so make the trip.Honestly? You're both white and older, you should be fine.You know how big the country is, and it's hard for me to say from KS what the attitude in New England is. But that being said, it sounds like you'll be mostly in pretty liberal/progressive areas and will have little to worry about in terms of political demonstrations being met with police violence.That being said, it's impossible to predict what Darth Mango and his muskrat will come up with between now and then.Jane--On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 8:25 AM Ellen Rawson <ellenr@fastmail.com> wrote:No worries -- I was thinking more Boston area. :)But about the world... how scary is the US right now? Or is the British media exaggerating?Ellen--On Sun, 23 Feb 2025, at 2:11 PM, Grey Malkin wrote:While I and my traveling buddies would love to see you both, we're definitely too far away.LaurieOn Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 8:51 AM Ellen Rawson <ellenr@fastmail.com> wrote:We will be driving up to the Boston area on Sunday, 6th April, so it's just barely a weekend, but it's a weekend.Anyone else? I don't think Beth is here, but I've written to her offlist. Jenna/Gwyn, we'll take you out to dinner if you're not working that night.EllenOn Sat, 22 Feb 2025, at 5:49 PM, Mina Ellyse Warren wrote:I'll be leaving Central PA next month for New Hampshire, and I'm sure I'll still be settling in, but I can probably do the hour and a half drive down there, especially on a weekend (every other Friday off too, but if I had to take a day off work, I definitely could!)And I'd love to see both of you!Cheers,Mina Ellyse
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No worries -- I was thinking more Boston area. :)But about the world... how scary is the US right now? Or is the British media exaggerating?Ellen--On Sun, 23 Feb 2025, at 2:11 PM, Grey Malkin wrote:While I and my traveling buddies would love to see you both, we're definitely too far away.LaurieOn Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 8:51 AM Ellen Rawson <ellenr@fastmail.com> wrote:We will be driving up to the Boston area on Sunday, 6th April, so it's just barely a weekend, but it's a weekend.Anyone else? I don't think Beth is here, but I've written to her offlist. Jenna/Gwyn, we'll take you out to dinner if you're not working that night.EllenOn Sat, 22 Feb 2025, at 5:49 PM, Mina Ellyse Warren wrote:I'll be leaving Central PA next month for New Hampshire, and I'm sure I'll still be settling in, but I can probably do the hour and a half drive down there, especially on a weekend (every other Friday off too, but if I had to take a day off work, I definitely could!)And I'd love to see both of you!Cheers,Mina Ellyse
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While I and my traveling buddies would love to see you both, we're definitely too far away.LaurieOn Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 8:51 AM Ellen Rawson <ellenr@fastmail.com> wrote:We will be driving up to the Boston area on Sunday, 6th April, so it's just barely a weekend, but it's a weekend.Anyone else? I don't think Beth is here, but I've written to her offlist. Jenna/Gwyn, we'll take you out to dinner if you're not working that night.EllenOn Sat, 22 Feb 2025, at 5:49 PM, Mina Ellyse Warren wrote:I'll be leaving Central PA next month for New Hampshire, and I'm sure I'll still be settling in, but I can probably do the hour and a half drive down there, especially on a weekend (every other Friday off too, but if I had to take a day off work, I definitely could!)And I'd love to see both of you!Cheers,Mina Ellyse
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--We will be driving up to the Boston area on Sunday, 6th April, so it's just barely a weekend, but it's a weekend.Anyone else? I don't think Beth is here, but I've written to her offlist. Jenna/Gwyn, we'll take you out to dinner if you're not working that night.EllenOn Sat, 22 Feb 2025, at 5:49 PM, Mina Ellyse Warren wrote:I'll be leaving Central PA next month for New Hampshire, and I'm sure I'll still be settling in, but I can probably do the hour and a half drive down there, especially on a weekend (every other Friday off too, but if I had to take a day off work, I definitely could!)And I'd love to see both of you!Cheers,Mina Ellyse
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I'll be leaving Central PA next month for New Hampshire, and I'm sure I'll still be settling in, but I can probably do the hour and a half drive down there, especially on a weekend (every other Friday off too, but if I had to take a day off work, I definitely could!)And I'd love to see both of you!Cheers,Mina Ellyse
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