MassCOSH Looking for a Worker Center Membership Organizer! Please Circulate

1532B Dorchester Avenue

Dorchester, MA  02122

(617) 825-SAFE

 
MassCOSH

Massachusetts Coalition for Occupational Safety and Health

 

Job Opening: Worker Center Membership Organizer
25 hrs/week

The Massachusetts Coalition for Occupational Safety and Health (MassCOSH) is a nonprofit organization that organizes and mobilizes workers, unions, and community activists to advocate for and promote a healthy and safe workplace.  MassCOSH is an exciting and growing organization with a diverse, committed staff that work as a team.

 

MassCOSH seeks a worker center membership organizer who will focus on the following areas:

§         Identify the interest and capacity of worker center members, encouraging them to become volunteers who can play a wide range of roles.

§         Provide training and coaching to enable members to be effective at speaking at churches and on the radio, promoting the program, conducting intake and/or facilitating clinics – depending upon skills and interest.

§         Recruit, train and coordinate volunteers and resources that can benefit worker center members – such as law students, ESOL instructors, food pantries and other social services.

 

The worker center membership organizer will participate in other MassCOSH initiatives to promote safe and healthy working conditions for workers, particularly low income, immigrant workers.   

 

Duties:

Ø      Provide training, coaching and support to worker center members to maximize their engagement and enable them to effectively achieve the volunteer efforts they seek to engage in

Ø      Conduct follow up to worker center member volunteers, inviting them to other events and thanking them for their assistance, and track the volunteer efforts of the worker center members (the areas they have chosen to assist with and their achievements).

Ø      Encourage and assist workers to organize for workplace improvements, supporting groups of workers as they develop and lead an organizing strategy, and linking them with other resources.

Ø      Develop and disseminate regular packets for worker center members to promote awareness of achievements and engagement in events, including a calendar of events and e-newsletter articles;

 

Qualifications:

§                  Fluency in Spanish and English required

§                  Strong organizing and leadership development skills, ability to engage and involve workers

§                  Strong communication, facilitation and listening skills

§                  Experience with worker health and safety and worker rights, a plus

§                  Computer skills

§                  Team player

§                  Ability to maintain a high level of professionalism and confidentiality

§                  Commitment to social and economic justice and an understanding the mission, objectives and culture of MassCOSH,

§                  Cultural sensitivity.

§                  Ability to provide own transportation

§                  Flexible hours

 

Salary and benefits:  $28,625 (pro rated based on $45,805 full time salary plus benefits.

Send resume & cover letter by May15 to info@masscosh.org.  (All applications must include resume and cover letter)

 

 

 




 

 

 

Mirna Montano

Worker Center Organizer

MassCOSH

1532B Dorchester Avenue

617-825-7233 x 16

fax:617-822-3718

mirna.montano@masscosh.org

Member USW Local 9358

 

Privilege is the ability to make your issues
someone else's problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: mass-coalition-for-domestic-workers@googlegroups.com [mailto:mass-coalition-for-domestic-workers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lydia Edwards
Sent:
Wednesday, April 11, 2012 9:26 AM
To: mass-coalition-for-domestic-workers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: Community Worker position open in
Dayton, Ohio, with ABLE's Migrant Farmworker and Immigration Program

 

Job Opportunity in Ohio

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Heller, Mark <mheller@ablelaw.org>
Date:
Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:52 AM
Subject: Community Worker position open in Dayton, Ohio, with ABLE's Migrant Farmworker and Immigration Program
To: fjftalk@farmworkerjustice.org, NationalImmigrationProject@yahoogroups.com, Low Wage Worker Legal Network <lwwln@googlegroups.com>, nelp-employmentrights@yahoogroups.com

Hi!

 

We are hiring a Community Worker in our Dayton office.  We focus our work on employment, civil rights and immigration representation.  Please apply through the mechanism noted on the ad but contact me if you have any questions about the work.  Thanks!

 

Mark Heller

Managing Attorney

Migrant Farmworker and Immigration Program

Advocates for Basic Legal Equality, Inc.

525 Jefferson Ave., Suite 300

Toledo, OH    43604

(419) 255-0814

FAX:  (419) 259-2880

 

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Massachusetts Coalition for Domestic Workers, Member

 

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BREAKING: Venazi Luna, Walmart Employee, Circulating Petition Demanding CEO Step Down - Please sign the petition too!

This just out via REUTERS, also currently on the front page of the Huffington Post: http://huff.to/IpNKUa

The story is all about this petition: http://chn.ge/IUdxix

 

Please share and post widely!

 

Venazi Luna, Walmart Employee, Circulating Petition Demanding CEO Step Down

Reuters  |  Posted: 04/27/2012 1:51 pm Updated: 04/27/2012 2:43 pm

By Brad Dorfman

April 27 (Reuters) - A deli manager at a Walmart store has started an online petition calling for the resignations of the retailer's chairman and chief executive officer in the wake of allegations that top management squelched an internal probe into bribery allegations.

Venazi Luna, who works at the Walmart in Pico Rivera, California, near Los Angeles, started the petition on Thursday and had more than 4,300 signatures as of Friday afternoon. Luna, who has worked at Walmart for seven years, said she wanted to get 10,000 online signatures or more.

The petition calls for the resignation of Wal-Mart Stores Inc Chairman S. Robson Walton and CEO Mike Duke as well as for "a thorough and independent investigation by a highly-respected external organization."

In an interview, Luna said that after she got the signatures, she wanted to bring the petition to Wal-Mart's headquarters in Bentonville, Arkansas, to show management that this was what employees wanted.

"Nobody should get away with bribery, and they should be held accountable for that," Luna said.

Luna, who is from Mexico, is a member of an employee group called Organization United for Respect at Walmart, or OUR Walmart, a group aimed at improving conditions for the retailer's workers.

The New York Times reported last week that Wal-Mart's Mexican subsidiary, Wal-Mart de Mexico (Walmex) made suspect payments totaling $24 million last decade to expand rapidly in the country, where it is the biggest retailer.

The Times also said that top executives had squelched an internal investigation into the probe. Duke, who became head of Wal-Mart's international business in 2005, was one of the executives who were aware of the situation, the report said.

A Wal-Mart spokesman declined to comment on the petition. The company this week disclosed a group of high-profile lawyers and accountants it has brought in to help with an internal investigation into the matter.

The demands in the petition mirror those called for on Wednesday by Joe Hansen, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union.

A UFCW spokeswoman said Luna reached out to the union for help on the petition, which is mentioned on its website.

Wal-Mart is facing a criminal probe by the U.S. Department of Justice over potential violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, a U.S. law that forbids bribery of foreign officials.

The Mexican attorney general's office has launched a preliminary investigation into whether the retailer bribed officials to expand its business, and Mexico's comptroller's office has also said it would look into the bribery reports.

Wal-Mart shares were up 7 cents at $59.02 on Friday on the New York Stock Exchange. The stock is down about 5.5 percent this week, but has recovered some after being down 8.2 percent earlier in the week.

 

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Re: Happy Apple

--- On Fri, 4/27/12, Jenny Tait <piratejenny@verizon.net> wrote:

>
> Well, we were on our honeymoon and therefore didn't want to
> spend time
> with anyone but each other...:-)

Except for Tolkien and Robin Hood. ;)

Ellen

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Re: Happy Apple

On 4/26/2012 12:47 PM, Ellen Rawson wrote:
>
> --- On Thu, 4/26/12, Jenny Tait<piratejenny@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Well, if we had smartphones back then, we would have found
>> it. And we'd
>> lost the map to it we had. But this just means we'll have to
>> go back.
>
> Ya coulda called us. (Did you hear my original Philly accent in that line? :)
>
> Seriously, we're only about 1.5 hours away from Oxford.

Well, we were on our honeymoon and therefore didn't want to spend time
with anyone but each other...:-)

--
Jenny
___________
"You cheated."
"Pirate."

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Re: today is World Penguin Day

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Susan <dragonmom7@onebox.com> wrote:

----Original Message----
From:    "Gwyn Ryan" <gwynhefar@gmail.com>
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Susan  wrote:

> OK; just Who is Abaddon?
> At first I thought you mis typed Abandon; but I have known you too long.....
>
>

Wikipedia to the rescue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbadon :)

Gwyn


Thanks, Ilana knows more than just her Penguins; thank you Ilana and Gwyn


DM
 

Perhaps we could simply matters and just celebrate with the Autobahn?

Randall 

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Re: today is World Penguin Day

----Original Message----
From: "Gwyn Ryan" <gwynhefar@gmail.com>
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Susan wrote:

> OK; just Who is Abaddon?
> At first I thought you mis typed Abandon; but I have known you too long.....
>
>

Wikipedia to the rescue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbadon :)

Gwyn


Thanks, Ilana knows more than just her Penguins; thank you Ilana and Gwyn


DM

"Kill them with kindness. Unless you have a gun."



--
Rain and sun shall feed me now,
and roots, and nuts, and wild things,
and rustlings in the midnight wood,
half-mad, like Myrddin, wandering.

--Terri Windling

one day I am going to bloom
patient and proud
with fish in my mouth
and eyes in my wings

--Noe Venable


LJ: http://gwynraven.livejournal.com/

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Friday April 27 @ 12pm: Change Wal-Mart Massachusetts coalition demands that Wal-Mart local Board-member Dr. Cash reveal community financial activity.

Media Advisory:

For tomorrow, Friday, April 27th @ 12pm
Contact: Russ Davis (617) 413-0713, russdavis@comcast.net
             Edwin Argueta (617) 335-9501, edwin@massjwj.net,

Friday: Members of the coalition Change Walmart Massachusetts are demanding that Walmart publicly divulge their financial contributions to elected officials, organizations, and community leaders. 

 

Boston, MA - Coalition members are deeply concerned that Walmart is continuing their legacy of using money and fear to coerce local communities into accepting their expansion plans.  The coalition is demanding to know how much money Walmart has contributed to local officials and nonprofit organizations through their lobbyists and the Walton Family Foundation and what, if anything, was promised in return.

 

“Communities must be able to decide democratically what is right for them without outside money interfering.  Walmart has shown over and over that it does not care if its actions are ethically or legally wrong – as long as there are profits to be made.” said Russ Davis, Executive Director of Massachusetts Jobs with Justice.  “We are also calling on locally based Walmart board member Dr. James Cash to support the call for resignations of top executives who are implicated in the bribery scandal.”

 

Dr. James Cash works at the General Catalyst Partners in Harvard Square, Cambridge and is a professor emeritus of the Harvard Business School.  He is on the Board of several corporations, including GE.  He has yet to make a public statement about Walmart’s bribery and corruption scandal in Mexico.

 

When: Tomorrow, Friday, April 27th @ 12 noon.

Where: Gathering at Harvard Square Kiosk and then walking to Dr. Cash's office at 20 University Rd. Cambridge, MA

Who: Change Walmart Massachusetts, coalition includes Union of Minority Neighborhoods, Massachusetts Jobs with Justice, City Life/ Vida Urbana, the Boston Workers Alliance, Change at Wal-Mart, IBEW 103, and many others.
--

James Razsa

MassUniting & Jobs with Justice

(207)838-4703

 

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Re: Happy Apple

On 4/26/2012 2:59 AM, Ellen Rawson wrote:
>
> --- On Thu, 4/26/12, Jenny Tait<piratejenny@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> They actually have agreed to the pay the copyright fee for
>> the next, um,
>> ten I think, years.
>
> The pub or Zaentz? The last I'd heard, the pub landlady isn't able to talk about it until an official decision is made. She wrote that on the Save the Hobbit Facebook page earlier this week.
>

They were going to pay it for the pub to whomever. I read it online a
few weeks ago, so perhaps it just hasn't been paid yet. Can't for the
life of me remember where I read it, but it was a reputable
source/paper/thing.


--
Jenny
___________
"You cheated."
"Pirate."

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Re: today is World Penguin Day

On 4/25/2012 10:42 PM, Susan wrote:
>
> ----Original Message----
> From: "Wayne Morrison"<tewok@storm-monkeys.com>
> gwynhefar@gmail.com said:
>>> Celebrate with Abaddon.
>>
>> You know when I first read that I thought you said "Celebrate with
>> Audubon" which would make sense. Then I realised - Audobon, Abaddon
>> -- coincidence? I think not!
>
> Oooh! I *wish* I'd said that! Abaddon fit, given the normal penguinic
> reception here in Tamson House. But Audobon would have been *much* better.
>
> Wayne
>
>
> OK; just Who is Abaddon?
> At first I thought you mis typed Abandon; but I have known you too long.....
>

Well, Matthew Abaddon was a minor character in Lost but I don't think
that's who Wayne meant

--
Jenny
___________
"You cheated."
"Pirate."

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Re: Happy Apple

--- On Thu, 4/26/12, Jenny Tait <piratejenny@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Well, if we had smartphones back then, we would have found
> it. And we'd
> lost the map to it we had. But this just means we'll have to
> go back.

Ya coulda called us. (Did you hear my original Philly accent in that line? :)

Seriously, we're only about 1.5 hours away from Oxford.

Ellen

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Re: today is World Penguin Day

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Susan <dragonmom7@onebox.com> wrote:

> OK; just Who is Abaddon?
> At first I thought you mis typed Abandon; but I have known you too long.....
>
>

Wikipedia to the rescue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbadon :)

Gwyn



--
Rain and sun shall feed me now,
and roots, and nuts, and wild things,
and rustlings in the midnight wood,
half-mad, like Myrddin, wandering.

--Terri Windling

one day I am going to bloom
patient and proud
with fish in my mouth
and eyes in my wings

--Noe Venable


LJ: http://gwynraven.livejournal.com/

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Re: Happy Apple

--- On Thu, 4/26/12, Jenny Tait <piratejenny@verizon.net> wrote:

>
> They actually have agreed to the pay the copyright fee for
> the next, um,
> ten I think, years.

The pub or Zaentz? The last I'd heard, the pub landlady isn't able to talk about it until an official decision is made. She wrote that on the Save the Hobbit Facebook page earlier this week.

Ellen

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Re: today is World Penguin Day

ilana.halupovich@gmail.com said:
> I think that he supposed to be one of messengers of evil mentioned in
> Passover Haggadah. Abaddon in Hebrew means destruction or devastation.

That may be, but all I really know is that Keith Emerson thinks Abaddon
has a bolero.

Wayne

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Re: today is World Penguin Day



On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Susan <dragonmom7@onebox.com> wrote:

----Original Message----
From:    "Wayne Morrison" <tewok@storm-monkeys.com>
gwynhefar@gmail.com said:
>> Celebrate with Abaddon.
>
> You know when I first read that I thought you said "Celebrate with
> Audubon" which would make sense.  Then I realised - Audobon, Abaddon
> -- coincidence?  I think not!

Oooh!  I *wish* I'd said that!  Abaddon fit, given the normal penguinic
reception here in Tamson House.  But Audobon would have been *much* better.

                               Wayne


OK; just Who is Abaddon?
At first I thought you mis typed Abandon; but I have known you too long.....


DM
"Kill them with kindness. Unless you have a gun."



I think that he supposed to be one of messengers of evil mentioned in Passover Haggadah. Abaddon in Hebrew means destruction or devastation.


--
ilana

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Re: today is World Penguin Day

----Original Message----
From: "Wayne Morrison" <tewok@storm-monkeys.com>
gwynhefar@gmail.com said:
>> Celebrate with Abaddon.
>
> You know when I first read that I thought you said "Celebrate with
> Audubon" which would make sense. Then I realised - Audobon, Abaddon
> -- coincidence? I think not!

Oooh! I *wish* I'd said that! Abaddon fit, given the normal penguinic
reception here in Tamson House. But Audobon would have been *much* better.

Wayne


OK; just Who is Abaddon?
At first I thought you mis typed Abandon; but I have known you too long.....


DM
"Kill them with kindness. Unless you have a gun."

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Re: today is World Penguin Day

> They're sneaking their fuzzy little ways into our brains.

Where's my colander?

Laurie

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Re: today is World Penguin Day

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Wayne Morrison <tewok@storm-monkeys.com> wrote:

> Celebrate with Abaddon. 
>
>You know when I first read that I thought you said "Celebrate with
>Audubon" which would make sense. Then I realised - Audobon, Abaddon
>-- coincidence? I think not!

>Gwyn


How about celebrate with abandon?!
Suzi (looking for any good reason to celebrate!)

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Re: Happy Apple

On 4/25/2012 3:12 AM, Ellen Rawson wrote:
>
>
> --- On Wed, 4/25/12, Jenny Tait<piratejenny@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Tony is the one who insisted on us going to Oxford on our
>> honeymoon. The sad thing is that we never were able to find
>> Tolkien's grave. I'm sure it's far better marked since the
>> movies came out. We knew the name of the cemetery is
>> Wolvercote, but Wolvercote Cemetery is not in the town of
>> Wolvercote. The cemetery that is there is very nice though.
>> And it turns out T has some ancestry from Wolvercote so we
>> may have walked on some of his ancestors.
>
> No, it's north of Wolvercote -- off of the A4185. It's near the North Oxford Golf Club, south of Kidlington.
>

Well, if we had smartphones back then, we would have found it. And we'd
lost the map to it we had. But this just means we'll have to go back.

--
Jenny
___________
"You cheated."
"Pirate."

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Re: Happy Apple

On 4/25/2012 3:03 AM, Ellen Rawson wrote:
>
>
> --- On Wed, 4/25/12, Wayne Morrison<tewok@storm-monkeys.com> wrote:
> .
>>
>> Not until the copyright expires. Once that happens, we
>> can fix all the
>> problems it's plagued with.
>
> Or will the Saul Zaentz company own them? I mean, they now own the copyright to names from the books. They own the name 'The Hobbit' and have been going after pubs and restaurants in Britain that having been using the name 'The Hobbit' for 20+ years.
>
> For example, the Hobbit pub in Southampton has had that name for 20+ years, and Zaentz is threatening them with legal action. Both Stephen Fry and Ian McKellan have spoken out against their boss and in support of the pub when they were filming 'The Hobbit' in New Zealand.
>

They actually have agreed to the pay the copyright fee for the next, um,
ten I think, years.

I still can't believe the Tolkien family let that copyright out. No
matter how much it cost. I hope Dad's haunting them for that.

--
Jenny
___________
"You cheated."
"Pirate."

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Re: today is World Penguin Day



On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 19:41, Donna Scanlon <scanlon.donna@gmail.com> wrote:
Wayne:
> They're sneaking their fuzzy little ways into our brains.

[Excellent! All is going according to plan!]

Abaddon Acquires Audobon..more at 11 on Penguin News 

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Re: today is World Penguin Day

Wayne:
> They're sneaking their fuzzy little ways into our brains.

[Excellent! All is going according to plan!]

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You can call yourself whatever you want; it's what you do that matters.

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Re: today is World Penguin Day

grymalkyn@gmail.com said:
> Penguin Day, eh? That would explain why, when a coworker asked me
> about an application, instead of saying that it was still pending, I
> said it was still PENGUIN.

They're sneaking their fuzzy little ways into our brains.

Wayne

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Re: today is World Penguin Day

> Oooh!  I *wish* I'd said that!  Abaddon fit, given the normal penguinic
> reception here in Tamson House.  But Audobon would have been *much* better.

Penguin Day, eh? That would explain why, when a coworker asked me
about an application, instead of saying that it was still pending, I
said it was still PENGUIN.

Laurie
(I did. Honestly.)

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Re: today is World Penguin Day

gwynhefar@gmail.com said:
>> Celebrate with Abaddon.
>
> You know when I first read that I thought you said "Celebrate with
> Audubon" which would make sense. Then I realised - Audobon, Abaddon
> -- coincidence? I think not!

Oooh! I *wish* I'd said that! Abaddon fit, given the normal penguinic
reception here in Tamson House. But Audobon would have been *much* better.

Wayne

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Re: today is World Penguin Day

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Wayne Morrison <tewok@storm-monkeys.com> wrote:
> Celebrate with Abaddon.
>
You know when I first read that I thought you said "Celebrate with
Audubon" which would make sense. Then I realised - Audobon, Abaddon
-- coincidence? I think not!

Gwyn

--
Rain and sun shall feed me now,
and roots, and nuts, and wild things,
and rustlings in the midnight wood,
half-mad, like Myrddin, wandering.

--Terri Windling

one day I am going to bloom
patient and proud
with fish in my mouth
and eyes in my wings

--Noe Venable


LJ: http://gwynraven.livejournal.com/

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today is World Penguin Day

Celebrate with Abaddon.

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Re: Happy Apple

--- On Wed, 4/25/12, Jenny Tait <piratejenny@verizon.net> wrote:

> Tony is the one who insisted on us going to Oxford on our
> honeymoon. The sad thing is that we never were able to find
> Tolkien's grave. I'm sure it's far better marked since the
> movies came out. We knew the name of the cemetery is
> Wolvercote, but Wolvercote Cemetery is not in the town of
> Wolvercote. The cemetery that is there is very nice though.
> And it turns out T has some ancestry from Wolvercote so we
> may have walked on some of his ancestors.

No, it's north of Wolvercote -- off of the A4185. It's near the North Oxford Golf Club, south of Kidlington.

Ellen

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Re: Happy Apple

--- On Wed, 4/25/12, Wayne Morrison <tewok@storm-monkeys.com> wrote:
.
>
> Not until the copyright expires.  Once that happens, we
> can fix all the
> problems it's plagued with.

Or will the Saul Zaentz company own them? I mean, they now own the copyright to names from the books. They own the name 'The Hobbit' and have been going after pubs and restaurants in Britain that having been using the name 'The Hobbit' for 20+ years.

For example, the Hobbit pub in Southampton has had that name for 20+ years, and Zaentz is threatening them with legal action. Both Stephen Fry and Ian McKellan have spoken out against their boss and in support of the pub when they were filming 'The Hobbit' in New Zealand.

Ellen

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Re: Happy Apple

grymalkyn@gmail.com said:
> It's not like it's going to be fixed in the next edition....

Not until the copyright expires. Once that happens, we can fix all the
problems it's plagued with.

> Maybe Merry stole it while Eowyn was having her confab with Theoden.

Maybe Eowyn swiped it to keep Theoden alive a bit longer.

piratejenny@verizon.net said:
> Tony hated what was done to the movies so much by the time he finished
> watching RotK, that he hasn't even watched the extended version.

The movies definitely had some problems, but I thought they were a pretty
good set of movies. Clearly, I'm not a purist, but I can see Tony's point
of view.

Wayne

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Re: Happy Apple

On 4/24/2012 11:34 AM, Wayne Morrison wrote:
> GreatOakDressage@aol.com said:
>> The other mistake was not including the "Scouring of the Shire!"
>
> This wording implies that there were only two poor decisions made by
> the film-makers.
>

Yeah, seriously. Here's something to boggle minds. Tony hated what was
done to the movies so much by the time he finished watching RotK, that
he hasn't even watched the extended version. We've had it for years (it
took us a few years to even obtain it, and that was through a mega-sale
at Borders where it only cost a few bucks).

Tony is the one who insisted on us going to Oxford on our honeymoon. The
sad thing is that we never were able to find Tolkien's grave. I'm sure
it's far better marked since the movies came out. We knew the name of
the cemetery is Wolvercote, but Wolvercote Cemetery is not in the town
of Wolvercote. The cemetery that is there is very nice though. And it
turns out T has some ancestry from Wolvercote so we may have walked on
some of his ancestors.

Now that's a digression!

--
Jenny
___________
"You cheated."
"Pirate."

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Re: Happy Apple

> I didn't realize there was a statue of limitations on logic.

It's not like it's going to be fixed in the next edition....

> I was also just curious.  I didn't really remember if it was mentioned in the
> book.  I'm pretty sure it wasn't in the movie, but for all I know it could
> have plinged out of existence when Angie died.

No, I think you're correct. I don't think it ever was mentioned, and
it's actually a good point. Maybe Merry stole it while Eowyn was
having her confab with Theoden.

Laurie

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Re: Happy Apple

grymalkyn@gmail.com said:
> Oh, sure. Point out plot holes in fifty-year-old books.

I didn't realize there was a statue of limitations on logic.

I was also just curious. I didn't really remember if it was mentioned in the
book. I'm pretty sure it wasn't in the movie, but for all I know it could
have plinged out of existence when Angie died.

Wayne

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Re: Happy Apple

> Hmm...  Most toddlers I've had experience with have had a greater destructive
> capability than yer average Uruk-Hai.  A herd of toddlers could have been
> been Gandalf's sekrit weapon.

Well, okay, I have to admit that you have a point.

> Speaking of sekrit weapons, I've got another question about LotR.  A couple
> questions, actually.  These particular questions are about the Witch-King of
> Angmar.
>
> Why do you suppose that he'd ever venture out onto a battlefield, given that
> his existence depended on a technicality?  Sure, sure, Sauron says, "Hop to
> it!" and WKoA says, "Yes sir, Your Flaming Eyeballiness!" But he's got a
> dragon (which can kill him) and he can soar safely above the battlefield,
> away from the orcs, trolls, dwarves, elves, women, hobbits, toddlers,
> elephants, giraffes, zebras, splinters, amoebic dissentery, flesh wounds,
> and other non-men things that can kill him.  Why risk it?

Perhaps the original language of Angmar didn't have a word for "items
that can kill witch-kings," so he had to go with what was available.

> My other question is about the Witch-King of Angmar's ring.  What happened
> to it when he died?  Was it left just lying on the battlefield, waiting for
> another witch-king to come along?  Did someone snag it as a bit of plunder?
> Maybe Gandalf could have given it to someone for use in the big battle at
> the Gates of Mordor.  It might have been nice and soul-corrupty that quickly,
> but they were deadbeef anyway if The Ring wasn't destroyed.

Oh, sure. Point out plot holes in fifty-year-old books.

Laurie

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Re: Happy Apple

GreatOakDressage@aol.com said:
> May I quote you???

Sure, be my guest. To really quote me properly though, you've got to put
on a pompous, arrogant tone of voice.

Wayne

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Re: Happy Apple

grymalkyn@gmail.com said:
>> 'Salright. =A0I rather like the idea that a toddler was running around Mo=
>> rdor.
>
> One does not allow a toddler to simply run around Mordor.

Hmm... Most toddlers I've had experience with have had a greater destructive
capability than yer average Uruk-Hai. A herd of toddlers could have been
been Gandalf's sekrit weapon.


Speaking of sekrit weapons, I've got another question about LotR. A couple
questions, actually. These particular questions are about the Witch-King of
Angmar.

Why do you suppose that he'd ever venture out onto a battlefield, given that
his existence depended on a technicality? Sure, sure, Sauron says, "Hop to
it!" and WKoA says, "Yes sir, Your Flaming Eyeballiness!" But he's got a
dragon (which can kill him) and he can soar safely above the battlefield,
away from the orcs, trolls, dwarves, elves, women, hobbits, toddlers,
elephants, giraffes, zebras, splinters, amoebic dissentery, flesh wounds,
and other non-men things that can kill him. Why risk it?

Sure, sure, you can say he's ignorant of the technicality, but you'd think
someone whose very name says, "I know lots about magic!" would have an idea
that there's a horkin' big loophole painted on his chest.

My other question is about the Witch-King of Angmar's ring. What happened
to it when he died? Was it left just lying on the battlefield, waiting for
another witch-king to come along? Did someone snag it as a bit of plunder?
Maybe Gandalf could have given it to someone for use in the big battle at
the Gates of Mordor. It might have been nice and soul-corrupty that quickly,
but they were deadbeef anyway if The Ring wasn't destroyed.

Wayne

PS. I saw Resident Evil 2 several Saturdays ago. I was glad to see that
Nemesis was able to escape Raccoon City and get a new job as the Mouth of
Sauron.

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Re: Happy Apple

--- On Tue, 4/24/12, Wayne Morrison <tewok@storm-monkeys.com> wrote:


>     It is a truth universally acknowledged
> that when a beloved book is
>     made into a movie, dear friends will have
> bitter arguments about what
>     was done right and what was done wrong.
>


For me, I just have to tell myself that they're two different media entirely. One's a film, one's a book, and I have to judge them by their individual merits.

But I still missed all of the songs and music from the film. :)

Ellen

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Re: Happy Apple

> 'Salright.  I rather like the idea that a toddler was running around Mordor.

One does not allow a toddler to simply run around Mordor.

Laurie
(Sorry. Someone had to, right?)

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Re: Happy Apple

In a message dated 4/24/2012 11:47:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tewok@storm-monkeys.com writes:
Over the weekend, I made this observation to my wife:

    It is a truth universally acknowledged that when a beloved book is
    made into a movie, dear friends will have bitter arguments about what
    was done right and what was done wrong.
May I quote you???
 
 
Leslie K. Valente
Canvasback

Amagansett, New York
GreatOakDressage@aol.com

Bella Blu Farm
Wellington, Florida
BellaBluFarm@aol.com

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Re: Happy Apple

GreatOakDressage@aol.com said:
> I still think the LOTR films were a major achievement and I have
> watched them multiple times...

Yup, I'll agree with that, and I have also watched them bunches of times.


> I think most books lose when translated to the screen, alas!

Over the weekend, I made this observation to my wife:

It is a truth universally acknowledged that when a beloved book is
made into a movie, dear friends will have bitter arguments about what
was done right and what was done wrong.

Wayne

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Re: Happy Apple

In a message dated 4/24/2012 11:34:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tewok@storm-monkeys.com writes:
GreatOakDressage@aol.com said:
> The other mistake was not including the "Scouring of the Shire!"

This wording implies that there were only two poor decisions made by
the film-makers.

                Wayne
Well....these were the omissions that probably bothered me the most....I think most books lose when translated to the screen, alas! That said, I still think  the LOTR films were a major achievement and I have watched them multiple times...
 
Leslie K. Valente
Canvasback

Amagansett, New York
GreatOakDressage@aol.com

Bella Blu Farm
Wellington, Florida
BellaBluFarm@aol.com

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Re: Happy Apple

GreatOakDressage@aol.com said:
> The other mistake was not including the "Scouring of the Shire!"

This wording implies that there were only two poor decisions made by
the film-makers.

Wayne

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Re: Happy Apple

randall.m@gmail.com said:
> I do beg your pardon. That was a tyop. It should have read, Sam was 38.

'Salright. I rather like the idea that a toddler was running around Mordor.

Wayne

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Re: Happy Apple

randall.m@gmail.com said:
> One could, of course, consult the family trees in Appendix C.

That's true -- iff one remembers it's there and also has easy access to the
books. While I should have expected there to be a family tree among the 57
appendices, my copies of the books are in hiding and won't surface for a while.

Wayne

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Stop SB1070 Arizonification and criminalization of immigrants - Stand on the side of immigrant communities across the country

 

Immigrant Groups in Boston Ask Local Authorities to Restore Trust, and Oppose Arizona-policies as Supreme Court Hears SB1070 in Washington

Events in Cities Across Country Protest "Arizonification,"

Call for Local Protections for Immigrant Families

   

 

Who: Centro Presente
What: Restore Trust, Stop 'Arizonification' Rally and Press Conference
Where: In front of the Massachusetts State House, Boston
When: Wednesday, April 25th  at 10:00 a.m

As part of the
Just Communities campaign and in collaboration with a national day of action coordinated by the National Day Labor Organizing Network, (NDLON), Centro Presente and local allies will hold a rally and press conference on April 25th, the day the Supreme Court will hear arguments in the AZ SB1070 case.  As the court debates Arizona's controversial immigration policy, the rally calls upon our local authorities to show that Massachusetts is not Arizona by creating a bright line between local police and immigration enforcement. 

Immigrant groups cite the City of Boston's participation in the federal deportation program, "Secure Communities," as eroding local trust in law enforcement and having similar effects as Arizona's SB1070. Since implementation, the program has had a dangerous chilling effect on relations between immigrant communities and law enforcement and has accounted for a record of more than 400,000 deportations nationally in the past year.

"As part of a national movement in support of immigrant rights, we are pleased to be coordinating the local activities with allies like the Student Immigrant Movement (SIM), the Unitarian Universalist Association, and many others who stand in solidarity with our compañeros in Arizona and to push back against the promotion of similar laws here in Massachusetts," said Patricia Montes, Executive Director of Centro Presente.

 

SCHEDULE OF THE DAY'S EVENTS 

 

10:00 A.M.

Rally and Press Conference, Steps of the State House, Organized by Centro Presente

11:00 A.M. -

3:00 P.M. Teach-In about the history of anti-immigrant legislation, Steps of the State House, Organized by The Student Immigrant Movement

1:00 P.M.

Lobby Activity, Halls of the State House, Organized by the Unitarian Universalist Association and UU Mass Action 

 

3:30 P.M.

Protest, Steps of the State House, Organized by the Student Immigrant Movement 

 

### 

 

 

Edwin Argueta

Immigrant Worker Rights Organizer

Massachusetts Jobs with Justice

3353 Washington Street

Jamaica Plain, MA 02130

(617) 524-8085 phone

(617) 524-8996 fax

edwin@massjwj.net

 

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