Re: New Dr Who

I have no difficulty with that image at all


Susan Allen
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Still trying to imagine Peter in a punk band with Craig Ferguson back in
the day

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Re: New Dr Who




On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Grey Malkin <grymalkyn@gmail.com> wrote:

>
I liked the costumes a lot.

I loved Clara's dress.  I have to wonder, though, about Madame Vastra having clothes in her house that fit Clara.  And jewelry, too. 

Still, I really, really liked Jenny's day outfit, and that would be easy enough to reproduce.
 
I also liked Peter Capaldi, but I've liked him since Local Hero when he was falling in love with a mermaid.

I will be interested to see if they resolve the faces thing over the season or just leave it hanging out there.

Laurie

I liked it considerably more than I thought I would.  I have a feeling it might be an interesting season as we get used to more than just a new face.  Of course the same could ahve been said (and was) when David Tennant took over.

Still trying to imagine Peter in a punk band with Craig Ferguson back in the day

bardi 

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Re: New Dr Who


>
I liked the costumes a lot.

I loved Clara's dress.  I have to wonder, though, about Madame Vastra having clothes in her house that fit Clara.  And jewelry, too. 

Still, I really, really liked Jenny's day outfit, and that would be easy enough to reproduce.
 
I also liked Peter Capaldi, but I've liked him since Local Hero when he was falling in love with a mermaid.

I will be interested to see if they resolve the faces thing over the season or just leave it hanging out there.

Laurie

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RE: New Dr Who

I liked the transition episode; waiting to see how it plays out this season

Susan Allen
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Subject: New Dr Who

What? No comments here yet? :)

Ellen
 
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Re: New Dr Who

_______________________________
> From: Grey Malkin <grymalkyn@gmail.com>

>I liked it, especially the thing.  But I didn't like the other thing.
>
>
I liked the costumes a lot.

I also liked Peter Capaldi, but I've liked him since Local Hero when he was falling in love with a mermaid.

Michelle Gomez at the end was fun.

We'll see how it all continues, but I admit that I'm looking forward to episode 10, penned by Frank Cotrell Boyce.
Episode 3 is supposed to have Robin Hood, and I'm wondering how comedians Frank Skinner and Sanjeev Bhaskar will do in their respective guest roles. 

Ellen

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Re: New Dr Who

On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:30 PM, 'Ellen Rawson' via Tamson House <tamson-house@googlegroups.com> wrote:
What? No comments here yet? :)

I liked it, especially the thing.  But I didn't like the other thing.

Laurie

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New Dr Who

What? No comments here yet? :)

Ellen
 
"Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just books."
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Re: My Real Children

>________________________________
> From: Alexandre Muñiz <aom@puzzlezapper.com>

>
>Yes, I actually just read it last week. And it had me crying too. In
>fact, I think this was the first time I've had a chapter title make me cry.
>


I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one.

This book hit so many emotions for me. Jo Walton is an incredible writer.


Ellen

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Re: My Real Children


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> From: Katrina Knight <kknight@fastmail.fm>

>
> Yes, I read it when it first came out in the US. I rarely
> pre-order books, but that was one I did pre-order. I won't say
> Ioved it, because that doesn't seem the right description for a
> book that was so sad. Jo Walton's writing is amazing.

True, it is very sad. It pulled at my heartstrings and made me think a lot of my mother, which in itself made me cry.

I'm almost afriad to say much more. Let's see -- here's some old-fashioned spoiler space...



*****





spoiler space****







more space ***






*****





Is it safe yet? :)


Because my mother had dementia due to strokes, this book hit a lot of my buttons and made me cry. Damn, it made me think. Some of the thinking was selfish: I'm growing older. How long will it be before I can't take care of myself? What will happen to me? What will happen to Ian?

And another part of me thought more of the choices we make, and how, no matter what decision Patricia made, she wound up in the same place.  Was it fate or was it a coincidence? 

Which world would we prefer? Pat's world that cured AIDs but had so many nuclear attacks and was filled with intolerance, yet Pat was so happy with Bee and their children? Trish's world that became almost entirely socialist and celebrated peace, but her marriage was a complete disaster and it took years for her to find any happiness?

Ellen

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Re: My Real Children

At 05:32 AM 8/23/2014 'Ellen Rawson' via Tamson House wrote:

>Has anyone else here read it?

Yes, I read it when it first came out in the US. I rarely
pre-order books, but that was one I did pre-order. I won't say
Ioved it, because that doesn't seem the right description for a
book that was so sad. Jo Walton's writing is amazing.

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Re: My Real Children

On 08/23/2014 02:32 AM, 'Ellen Rawson' via Tamson House wrote:
> I have to gush about a book and ask if anyone here has read it...
>
> Okay, first, I have to admit that I love Jo Walton's writing. I was first taken in by Farthing, and whilst I'll admit that I thought the final book in the trilogy was weak, I still admired her writing style.
>
> And then there was Among Others, which won the 2012 Nebula and Hugo awards for best novel.
>
> Her latest book, My Real Children, in my not so humble opinion, seems destined to win awards also. It only recently was published in the UK and I finished reading it around 1am this morning.
>
> It had me crying.
>
> Has anyone else here read it?

Yes, I actually just read it last week. And it had me crying too. In
fact, I think this was the first time I've had a chapter title make me cry.

Owen

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Re: My Real Children

______________________________
> From: Kirsten Brodbeck-Kenney <crowyhead@gmail.com>

>I haven't read it yet, but I can't wait -- she is SO good.
>
>
>Right now I've departed a bit from the usual spec fic and I'm reading Americanah by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie. It's magnificent!
>
I finally read Americanah last winter. (I'm a fan of Adichie's, btw). I really liked Americanah a lot as well. 

Ellen 

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Re: My Real Children

I haven't read it yet, but I can't wait -- she is SO good.

Right now I've departed a bit from the usual spec fic and I'm reading Americanah by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie. It's magnificent!

Kirsten


On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 2:32 AM, 'Ellen Rawson' via Tamson House <tamson-house@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I have to gush about a book and ask if anyone here has read it...

Okay, first, I have to admit that I love Jo Walton's writing. I was first taken in by Farthing, and whilst I'll admit that I thought the final book in the trilogy was weak, I still admired her writing style.

And then there was Among Others, which won the 2012 Nebula and Hugo awards for best novel.

Her latest book, My Real Children, in my not so humble opinion, seems destined to win awards also. It only recently was published in the UK and I finished reading it around 1am this morning.

It had me crying.

Has anyone else here read it?

Ellen
 
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My Real Children

I have to gush about a book and ask if anyone here has read it...

Okay, first, I have to admit that I love Jo Walton's writing. I was first taken in by Farthing, and whilst I'll admit that I thought the final book in the trilogy was weak, I still admired her writing style.

And then there was Among Others, which won the 2012 Nebula and Hugo awards for best novel.

Her latest book, My Real Children, in my not so humble opinion, seems destined to win awards also. It only recently was published in the UK and I finished reading it around 1am this morning.

It had me crying.

Has anyone else here read it?

Ellen
 
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speaking of Glee...

I've been catching up on the second season of Vikings, and it's been
interesting seeing Jessalyn Gilsig there. Having spent a season or so
on Glee as the conniving, power-hungry, sneaky wife, it's nice to see
her branching out into a completely different role as Siggy. It's also
nice to see her getting more screen time and a meatier role.

Wayne

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Re: Robin Williams

The BBC just aired part of an interview from 2006 (?) with him -- about depression is never conquered; it's always there, latent, waiting for you. :(

He's so right, and we can only hope that his suicide makes people understand depression a little bit better, that it's not just something that you can snap out of in seconds, days or even months/years.

That man gave and gave and gave, but I'm not sure how much he received or was able to take in. :(

Ellen

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Re: Robin Williams

;-)

Susan Allen
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----Original Message----
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On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Susan wrote:

> His humor was never mean spirited, and that was always refreshing (also
> very seldom profane)
>
>
> Susan Allen
> Kill them with kindness. Unless you have a gun."
>



​Oh, he could swear up a storm if given a chance. *Gleefully*​. But he
knew when not to do it, which was important.

I was gonna list some of the films I enjoyed his work in, but I hit the
IMDb and realised I liked him in everything I saw him in.

Randall

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Re: Robin Williams




On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 2:44 AM, Matt Bear-Fowler <wakingdreaming@gmail.com> wrote:
Did you all hear Robin Williams was found dead this morning? Looks like suicide, I guess. :( He was one of my heroes.

Matt

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I heard on the morning news. :-(

O Captain! My Captain!

BY WALT WHITMAN
O Captain! my Captain! our fearful trip is done,
The ship has weather'd every rack, the prize we sought is won,
The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,
While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring;
                         But O heart! heart! heart!
                            O the bleeding drops of red,
                               Where on the deck my Captain lies,
                                  Fallen cold and dead.

O Captain! my Captain! rise up and hear the bells;
Rise up—for you the flag is flung—for you the bugle trills,
For you bouquets and ribbon'd wreaths—for you the shores a-crowding,
For you they call, the swaying mass, their eager faces turning;
                         Here Captain! dear father!
                            The arm beneath your head!
                               It is some dream that on the deck,
                                 You've fallen cold and dead.

My Captain does not answer, his lips are pale and still,
My father does not feel my arm, he has no pulse nor will,
The ship is anchor'd safe and sound, its voyage closed and done,
From fearful trip the victor ship comes in with object won;
                         Exult O shores, and ring O bells!
                            But I with mournful tread,
                               Walk the deck my Captain lies,
                                  Fallen cold and dead.


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Re: Glee-ful question

just.deb@gmail.com said:
> The first half of the first season is pretty much the best of the show, so do
> make the time if you can.

I'll try to keep an eye on re-runs, thanks.

> I haven't watched regularly since sometime in S3 but
> up to that point, they never really do more than wink at the name.

That was what I expected, but it also seemed just as likely that the name was
forced on them by the principal.

Thanks,
Wayne

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Re: Robin Williams

On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Susan <dragonmom7@onebox.com> wrote:
His humor was never mean spirited, and that was always refreshing (also very seldom profane)


Susan Allen
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​Oh, he could swear up a storm if given a chance.  Gleefully​.   But he knew when not to do it, which was important.

I was gonna list some of the films I enjoyed his work in, but I hit the IMDb and realised I liked him in everything I saw him in.

Randall

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Re: Robin Williams

His humor was never mean spirited, and that was always refreshing (also very seldom profane)


Susan Allen
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Subject: Re: Robin Williams

wakingdreaming@gmail.com said:
> Did you all hear Robin Williams was found dead this morning? Looks like
> suicide, I guess. :( He was one of my heroes.

Oh man, that sucks. He was a hero of mine, too. He's one of a
group of comedians I consider to be formative influences for me.

Wayne

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RE: Robin Williams

very sad; I knew he was battling personal demons, I am sorry to hear this news

Mork
Mrs Doubtfire

( and hundreds of other manic, silly and serious characters - even Peter Pan)
alas and alack we will miss him.


Susan Allen
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----Original Message----
From: "Matt Bear-Fowler" <wakingdreaming@gmail.com>
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Subject: Robin Williams

Did you all hear Robin Williams was found dead this morning? Looks like
suicide, I guess. :( He was one of my heroes.

Matt

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had one pleasure, I now have two."
— C.S. Lewis, *On Stories: And Other Essays on Literature*

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Re: Robin Williams

One of mine , too. Heartbreaking...

Leslie

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 11, 2014, at 7:44 PM, Matt Bear-Fowler <wakingdreaming@gmail.com> wrote:

Did you all hear Robin Williams was found dead this morning? Looks like suicide, I guess. :( He was one of my heroes.

Matt

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— C.S. Lewis, On Stories: And Other Essays on Literature

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Re: Robin Williams

On 8/11/2014 7:49 PM, Gwyn Ryan wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Matt Bear-Fowler
> <wakingdreaming@gmail.com <mailto:wakingdreaming@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Did you all hear Robin Williams was found dead this morning? Looks
> like suicide, I guess. :( He was one of my heroes.
>
> Matt
>
>
> I just heard. It's very sad. I've always thought that depression must
> be so much worse for someone who is *expected* to be funny and happy all
> the time. I thank life every day that feeling suicidal isn't one of my
> symptoms. There but for the grace of god and all that.
>

I kind of always figured depression could be underneath any comedian.
And with the amount of drugs he did, it just kind of seemed obvious to me.

It's not officially been ruled a suicide yet though. I'm waiting for the
official word from the coroner.

I'm generally asymptomatic in terms of depression these days (the
mania's a little harder to keep under control), but suicidal ideation
was a major one for me, and it's very hard. My heart goes out to him if
it was suicide--god knows how long he'd been dealing--and to his family.
It's hard to deal with someone in that state too. It's a stupid, selfish
illness and I see no point for it to exist. If we could figure out how
to eradicate it, that would be awesome.


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Re: Glee-ful question

The first half of the first season is pretty much the best of the show, so do make the time if you can. I haven't watched regularly since sometime in S3 but up to that point, they never really do more than wink at the name.

Deb

Sent mobile!

> On Aug 11, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Wayne Morrison <tewok@storm-monkeys.com> wrote:
>
> I know several folks here were/are Glee fans. I ended up watching a couple
> seasons based on y'all'uns' recommendations. I did miss the first half of
> the first season though, and haven't ever bothered to pick it up in re-runs.
> I've got a question about it. Did the show ever do anything about the joke
> in the glee club's name, or was that just a joke that everyone but the
> characters chuckled about?
>
> Wayne
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Re: Robin Williams

wakingdreaming@gmail.com said:
> Did you all hear Robin Williams was found dead this morning? Looks like
> suicide, I guess. :( He was one of my heroes.

Oh man, that sucks. He was a hero of mine, too. He's one of a
group of comedians I consider to be formative influences for me.

Wayne

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Re: Robin Williams




On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Matt Bear-Fowler <wakingdreaming@gmail.com> wrote:
Did you all hear Robin Williams was found dead this morning? Looks like suicide, I guess. :( He was one of my heroes.

Matt

I just heard.  It's very sad.  I've always thought that depression must be so much worse for someone who is *expected* to be funny and happy all the time.  I thank life every day that feeling suicidal isn't one of my symptoms.  There but for the grace of god and all that.

Gwyn


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Robin Williams

Did you all hear Robin Williams was found dead this morning? Looks like suicide, I guess. :( He was one of my heroes.

Matt

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Glee-ful question

I know several folks here were/are Glee fans. I ended up watching a couple
seasons based on y'all'uns' recommendations. I did miss the first half of
the first season though, and haven't ever bothered to pick it up in re-runs.
I've got a question about it. Did the show ever do anything about the joke
in the glee club's name, or was that just a joke that everyone but the
characters chuckled about?

Wayne

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Re: writers rant

Rangers were known to cover a lot of ground in a single day (on foot through the wilderness)
Even today 55 miles is not an impossible distance for a fit man/woman to travel in a single day.
Of course wagon trains sometimes considered 20 miles a good amount of progress - so a days journey does require some context.
I agree better to use an anachronistic measure of distance if your book is set in that time period.
I believe Leagues, Rods and Ells are all old measurements not in much use any more
(Why do we still measure a horse in Hands??)


Susan Allen
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To: "Susan" <tamson-house@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: writers rant

In your message regarding Re: writers rant dated 08/08/2014, Susan said ...


> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Sibyl Smirl wrote:

> I am able to overlook a certain amount of bad punctuation; but Not "to stupid
> to live" detectives

Strange things can throw you. Some while ago, I was reading, and enjoying,
a book set in the 7th century in Ireland.

It somewhat threw me when one of the characters referred to some place as
being a number of kilometres away.

Had they said miles, I might not have even noticed. Even if the mile we
know now is relatively modern, the concept of a mile as a unit is
sufficiently old (e.g. the Roman Mile). Had they said leagues, I wouldn't
have blinked, since it sounds old (and again, there is a Roman unit). But,
a kilometre, just sounded too modern and jolted me out of the fictional
world, interrupting my enjoyment.

It would have been so simple to avoid the problem entirely by having the
character say "Oh, it's about a day's walk up the river valley" or "If you
rode hard, you could be there in a couple of hours" or similar. That way,
you avoid all anachronisms. Of course, then you would get some pedantic
bugger saying - no way could somebody of that era have walked that distance
in a day - they didn't have proper shoes, and the path would have been very
slow...


Ian

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Re: writers rant

On 08/11/2014 03:09 PM, Gwyn Ryan wrote:



On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Grey Malkin <grymalkyn@gmail.com> wrote:

Strange things can throw you. Some while ago, I was reading, and enjoying,
a book set in the 7th century in Ireland.

It somewhat threw me when one of the characters referred to some place as
being a number of kilometres away.

I once read a standard medieval fantasy in which a noise that the main character heard was described as being like the droning of an airplane.  Which, just...no.  It would be one thing if the narrator was telling the story, like, say, in The Hobbit, so that the airplane was a frame of reference for the person being told the story.  But this didn't have that sort of conceit.  It was just lazy writing.  (And so mediocre, apparently, that I don't even remember the book or what the story was about.  Just the airplane droning where it shouldn't have been.)

Laurie
As much as I loved Frozen and mainlined "Let it Go" for days, the line about "frozen fractals in the air" always trips me up because somehow I just can't imagine that the Queen of Arendelle learned advanced mathematics as part of her royal education.

Gwyn

That line always sticks out for me too. Given that this is a world that appears to have bicycles but not firearms, I can't get too worked up about anachronisms here. I read it as implying that fractals are just one more thing that kids these days assume always existed, which I find fascinating. (And a little sad, because learning that fractals and chaos theory were things that real people, many of whom were still alive at the time, discovered through their own curiosity was something I found quite inspirational as a teenager. Math isn't just something that gets handed to you in dried out textbooks. It's something you can do and make!)  But to respond to your point, you don't have to know advanced mathematics to know what fractals are in a colloquial sense, (funny crinkly shapes where little bits look more or less like bigger bits). Presumably the kids who are watching the movie generally only know about fractals in this sense, so we don't have to presume that Elsa knows what a Hausdorff dimension is, or anything like that.

Owen

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Re: writers rant




On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Grey Malkin <grymalkyn@gmail.com> wrote:

Strange things can throw you. Some while ago, I was reading, and enjoying,
a book set in the 7th century in Ireland.

It somewhat threw me when one of the characters referred to some place as
being a number of kilometres away.

I once read a standard medieval fantasy in which a noise that the main character heard was described as being like the droning of an airplane.  Which, just...no.  It would be one thing if the narrator was telling the story, like, say, in The Hobbit, so that the airplane was a frame of reference for the person being told the story.  But this didn't have that sort of conceit.  It was just lazy writing.  (And so mediocre, apparently, that I don't even remember the book or what the story was about.  Just the airplane droning where it shouldn't have been.)

Laurie

As much as I loved Frozen and mainlined "Let it Go" for days, the line about "frozen fractals in the air" always trips me up because somehow I just can't imagine that the Queen of Arendelle learned advanced mathematics as part of her royal education.

Gwyn



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Re: writers rant


Strange things can throw you. Some while ago, I was reading, and enjoying,
a book set in the 7th century in Ireland.

It somewhat threw me when one of the characters referred to some place as
being a number of kilometres away.

I once read a standard medieval fantasy in which a noise that the main character heard was described as being like the droning of an airplane.  Which, just...no.  It would be one thing if the narrator was telling the story, like, say, in The Hobbit, so that the airplane was a frame of reference for the person being told the story.  But this didn't have that sort of conceit.  It was just lazy writing.  (And so mediocre, apparently, that I don't even remember the book or what the story was about.  Just the airplane droning where it shouldn't have been.)

Laurie

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Re: The Old Favorite

In your message regarding Re: The Old Favorite dated 07/08/2014, Bernard
Peek said ...

I'm still here too.

I'm still alive, well, most of me is - not sure about the contents of my
skull sometimes.

I'm still mostly out of work. At the back end of last year, I did work for
a few months doing door-to-door charity fundraising - the equivalent of
mugging somebody on their doorstep with the additional joy of interrupting
their dinner, putting the kids to bed, making new babies etc... My team
leader was barely literate and wasted half of our knocking time on endless
visits to shops and cigarette breaks, which cut into my actual productive
time and thus my success rate. After a few months, the lack of sufficient
results meant I was out of there.

I did do some contract work at the beginning of the year, which was good,
but that is likely to be the last of it as they client is moving away from
the technology they need me for.

I've been volunteering in a charity shop since the beginning of last year,
and since early this year, I am now trained up as a relief manager, so I
get to manage the shop on occasions and get paid for it. I did quite a few
days recently, helping at another shop where they were short a manager, but
they have now got a new one in place (sadly, not me, though I did apply).

Shock horror, I've not been doing a lot of reading lately... slowly working
my way through Piers Plowman to brush up my Middle English, reading stuff
about John Dee and various bits of light reading, such as Pratchett,
Butcher etc.

I'm doing a lot of reading online, and a lot of writing - playing the
character of Nathaniel in a Second Life RPG - or, as I prefer to call it,
collaborative story-telling. That's two lots of writing, because there was
what I do during the RP sessions, and then there is writing Nathaniel's
diary in the form of a blog. There are two of them - different timelines of
the same character, though one is horribly out of date[1].

I'm also in a writers' group on SL - we get together once or twice a day to
do a "dash", which is an exercise where we write something for 15 minutes
based on a one-word prompt. Most of mine are from the same setting I used
for two entries[2] on the THWC (for those that remember that). In between,
I write others stuff when it occurs to me. I've become occasionally popular
for helping people create character back-stories for SL role-play.

Still muddling along with SCA stuff, though it often frustrates me. Like
any other walk of life, you have to deal with idiots that make you question
why you bother. Feeling good about it at the moment as we finally succeeded
in getting a good friend of ours elevated to the peerage as a Pelican this
weekend. The weekend also included a very enjoyable visit to a privately
owned medieval manor house. Plans are being hatched as it could be a good
place for an SCA event of sorts.


OK, that'll do for now.

Ian
[1] There are two timelines, because I got invited to play Nathaniel in a
modern setting. Rather than skip a few hundred years, I forked the time
line at the point where he left London in 1891...

http://nathanielballard.wordpress.com/ - the main Nathaniel timeline -
currently about a month behind on updates - Nathaniel is somewhere in
Faerie and has no idea when he is, though he suspects about 300-400 years
before he was born

http://sevenseasofwhy.wordpress.com/ - in the other timeline, Nathaniel
didn't get shipwrecked and end up out of time. He made it to Germany,
failed to find his sire, returned to England and became an
importer/exporter and lived to the present day. This blog is about 3 or 4
months out of date (there being a big gap between one sim closing and
another opening). Currently, he is in New York and owns a pub. I will get
to that eventually.

[2] The first two THWC prompts -

http://seouthcearu.wordpress.com/the-moving-finger/windseeker/storm-friends/
the prompt was Raggedy Ann in a storm
http://seouthcearu.wordpress.com/the-moving-finger/windseeker/storm-friends/
the prompt was takes place in a bowling alley



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Re: writers rant

In your message regarding Re: writers rant dated 08/08/2014, Susan said ...


> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Sibyl Smirl wrote:

> I am able to overlook a certain amount of bad punctuation; but Not "to stupid
> to live" detectives

Strange things can throw you. Some while ago, I was reading, and enjoying,
a book set in the 7th century in Ireland.

It somewhat threw me when one of the characters referred to some place as
being a number of kilometres away.

Had they said miles, I might not have even noticed. Even if the mile we
know now is relatively modern, the concept of a mile as a unit is
sufficiently old (e.g. the Roman Mile). Had they said leagues, I wouldn't
have blinked, since it sounds old (and again, there is a Roman unit). But,
a kilometre, just sounded too modern and jolted me out of the fictional
world, interrupting my enjoyment.

It would have been so simple to avoid the problem entirely by having the
character say "Oh, it's about a day's walk up the river valley" or "If you
rode hard, you could be there in a couple of hours" or similar. That way,
you avoid all anachronisms. Of course, then you would get some pedantic
bugger saying - no way could somebody of that era have walked that distance
in a day - they didn't have proper shoes, and the path would have been very
slow...


Ian

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Re: writers rant

write once and read twice
I failed
sorry

Susan Allen
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Sent: Fri, Aug 08, 2014 2:54 AM
To: tamson-house@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: writers rant

On 08/08/2014 06:04, Susan wrote:
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Sibyl Smirl wrote:
>
> I am able to overlook a certain amount of bad punctuation; but Not "to stupid to live" detectives
>
> (although I also find it annoying in any book of fiction)
>
>
>
too



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Re: writers rant

On 8/8/14 4:54 AM, Jette Goldie wrote:
> On 08/08/2014 06:04, Susan wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Sibyl Smirl wrote:
>>
>> I am able to overlook a certain amount of bad punctuation; but Not "to
>> stupid to live" detectives
>>
>> (although I also find it annoying in any book of fiction)
>>
>>
>>
> too


I didn't do it. That's on Susan.


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Re: Surnames (was Re: writers rant)

On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Carol McFarland <moonlight.aileen@gmail.com> wrote:

When I was in the engagement period, it was important to me that we (my now husband and I) have a conversation about what our last name(s) would be.  So, we talked (read, argued).  I wanted to combine our last names into a new name (first half of my last name, last have of his last name) but he didn't like the idea.  Eventually we agreed that he didn't care what my last name was, but he didn't want to change his.  I  planned on adding his last name and having two middle names (my first name, first middle name, second middle name/maiden name, last name).  Instead however, I will answer to his last name if it's not a legal setting, but for legal things I use my last name.  Maybe someday I'll add his name to mine. I haven't quite decided yet still.

I changed my name when I got married the first time because that was what women did -- or so I thought.  The name was awkward (Borton) and had to constantly be spelled for people.  When we got divorced, I went back to my maiden name (Thayer).  I had no intentions of ever changing my name again even if I did remarry.

Enter my job.  The state uses five-character worker IDs.  In some counties, their IDs are numeric.  In some counties, the IDs seem to be random letters.  In our county, we use the first five letters of your last name.  I got sick and tired of being called "Mrs. Thigh," so when I remarried, I changed my name to my current surname (Firth), which fits nicely in the name field.  So now I don't get called "Mrs. Thigh," anymore.  I get called "Mrs. First." 

*sigh*

The rest of the story:  when he divorced me, I didn't change my name back for two reasons:  to remind the homewrecking twinkie*, er, new Mrs. Firth that there was a prior Mrs. Firth out there, and because I didn't feel like going through the hassle of getting up to Social Security and DMV and everywhere else, including work.

Laurie

*Not that I'm bitter or anything.

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Re: Surnames (was Re: writers rant)




On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Rick Le Mon <straif@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Carol McFarland <moonlight.aileen@gmail.com> wrote:

When I was in the engagement period, it was important to me that we (my now husband and I) have a conversation about what our last name(s) would be.  So, we talked (read, argued).  I wanted to combine our last names into a new name (first half of my last name, last have of his last name) but he didn't like the idea.  Eventually we agreed that he didn't care what my last name was, but he didn't want to change his.  I  planned on adding his last name and having two middle names (my first name, first middle name, second middle name/maiden name, last name).  Instead however, I will answer to his last name if it's not a legal setting, but for legal things I use my last name.  Maybe someday I'll add his name to mine. I haven't quite decided yet still. 

Becky contemplating hyphenating: O'Connor-Le Mon. Four capital letters, an apostrophe, a hyphen, and a space.


I think I would have done it just to be brag :)

Gwyn 

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Re: I miss TH

>Bardi said:
>So I am scrambling up and down ladders all day making sure people have their internet.

Noble work indeed!

Maryann

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Re: Surnames (was Re: writers rant)

On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Carol McFarland <moonlight.aileen@gmail.com> wrote:

When I was in the engagement period, it was important to me that we (my now husband and I) have a conversation about what our last name(s) would be.  So, we talked (read, argued).  I wanted to combine our last names into a new name (first half of my last name, last have of his last name) but he didn't like the idea.  Eventually we agreed that he didn't care what my last name was, but he didn't want to change his.  I  planned on adding his last name and having two middle names (my first name, first middle name, second middle name/maiden name, last name).  Instead however, I will answer to his last name if it's not a legal setting, but for legal things I use my last name.  Maybe someday I'll add his name to mine. I haven't quite decided yet still. 

Becky contemplating hyphenating: O'Connor-Le Mon. Four capital letters, an apostrophe, a hyphen, and a space.

Rick
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Re: writers rant

On 08/08/2014 06:04, Susan wrote:
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Sibyl Smirl wrote:
>
> I am able to overlook a certain amount of bad punctuation; but Not "to stupid to live" detectives
>
> (although I also find it annoying in any book of fiction)
>
>
>
too



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Re: I miss TH

Late replying, as always. Trying read as much as I can about as much as I can find while working my latest job, which is working in Field Operations for the local Bell phone company. I work in a building which looks from the outside like something from Lord of the Rings and on the inside is a 14 ft tall frame with people's phones connections So I am scrambling up and down ladders all day making sure people have their internet. Which means I have learned to appreciate audiobooks on my kindle.  Now if I could just stop being afraid of heights. 





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Re: writers rant




On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Susan <dragonmom7@onebox.com> wrote:

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From:    "Sibyl Smirl" <polycarpa3@ckt.net>
Sent:    Thu, Aug 07,  2014 3:11 PM
To:      tamson-house@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: writers rant


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You could edit your review to
Has all the ingredients to be great, but fails. Too many Too Stupid to live moments, further marred by the author overuse of cliches.

Of course you should word it to suit your actual complaints.

Susan Allen





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Re: writers rant

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From: "Sibyl Smirl" <polycarpa3@ckt.net>
Sent: Thu, Aug 07, 2014 3:11 PM
To: tamson-house@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: writers rant

On 8/7/14 4:00 PM, Jenny Tait wrote:
>
> You never answered if this was a self-pubbed book or not. I'm really
> curious!

It appears to me to be self-published. Copyright is in her own name.
http://www.leighanndobbs.com/


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You could edit your review to
Has all the ingredients to be great, but fails. Too many Too Stupid to live moments, further marred by the author overuse of cliches.

Of course you should word it to suit your actual complaints.

Susan Allen
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Re: writers rant

On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Sibyl Smirl wrote:

I am able to overlook a certain amount of bad punctuation; but Not "to stupid to live" detectives

(although I also find it annoying in any book of fiction)


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Re: Surnames (was Re: writers rant)




On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 4:20 PM, 'Ellen Rawson' via Tamson House <tamson-house@googlegroups.com> wrote:


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> From: Jenny Tait <piratejenny@verizon.net>
>
>>>  Under Scots law women do not lose their surname on marriage.
>>
>>  US women don't have to, either, but most of us choose to -- those who
>>  bother getting married, anyway, which seems to be fewer every year.  It
>>  still bothers me that _none_ of the three who mentioned "Why would she
>>  change her name?" even considered that she _might_ have gotten married
>>  and done so.  Turned out that the different name was a stage name.

I didn't change my name when I got married. I like to paraphrase Shakespeare from "Taming of the Shrew": I married him, not his name.

Of course, he didn't change his name to mine neither. :)


When I was in the engagement period, it was important to me that we (my now husband and I) have a conversation about what our last name(s) would be.  So, we talked (read, argued).  I wanted to combine our last names into a new name (first half of my last name, last have of his last name) but he didn't like the idea.  Eventually we agreed that he didn't care what my last name was, but he didn't want to change his.  I  planned on adding his last name and having two middle names (my first name, first middle name, second middle name/maiden name, last name).  Instead however, I will answer to his last name if it's not a legal setting, but for legal things I use my last name.  Maybe someday I'll add his name to mine. I haven't quite decided yet still. 


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Re: writers rant

On 8/7/2014 6:11 PM, Sibyl Smirl wrote:
> On 8/7/14 4:00 PM, Jenny Tait wrote:
>>
>> You never answered if this was a self-pubbed book or not. I'm really
>> curious!
>
> It appears to me to be self-published. Copyright is in her own name.
> http://www.leighanndobbs.com/
>
>

The copyright is almost always in the author's own name. Sometimes the
author will actually form a corporation or something and sometimes if
it's an introduction it will be copyrighted by the company, but
generally the author holds his/her own copyright, no matter how the book
is published.

If you go to one of the pages where you can buy her books and look up
the physical book, then you can see who the publisher is. In every
instance I checked, it's Create Space, which is a self-publishing platform.

From the number of books, it also appears she has no intention of stopping.

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Re: writers rant

On 8/7/14 4:00 PM, Jenny Tait wrote:
>
> You never answered if this was a self-pubbed book or not. I'm really
> curious!

It appears to me to be self-published. Copyright is in her own name.
http://www.leighanndobbs.com/


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Surnames (was Re: writers rant)

----- Original Message -----

> From: Jenny Tait <piratejenny@verizon.net>
>
>>> Under Scots law women do not lose their surname on marriage.
>>
>> US women don't have to, either, but most of us choose to -- those who
>> bother getting married, anyway, which seems to be fewer every year.  It
>> still bothers me that _none_ of the three who mentioned "Why would she
>> change her name?" even considered that she _might_ have gotten married
>> and done so.  Turned out that the different name was a stage name.

I didn't change my name when I got married. I like to paraphrase Shakespeare from "Taming of the Shrew": I married him, not his name.

Of course, he didn't change his name to mine neither. :)

Women throughout the UK do not lose their original surnames when they marry; it's a choice to take the husband's name. The UK Deed Poll website makes it clear that whilst it's not a popular option, it IS an option for a husband to take his wife's name.
>
> Actually, most of the women I know do NOT change their names, especially
> if they've already got a decent career going. Or they hyphenate.

American friends from Boulder visited us in June. I mention this fact because he did change to her name when they married. He had no attachment to his name; it was from a father he'd not seen since he was two. His mother re-married after the divorce and took on the new husband's name. Although that man acted as a father, he never adopted my friend, so he kept his biological father's name. 

His wife had a real attachment to her name, so he chose to take her name when they married. Very Boulder. Very cool. :)

I have other friends there who made up an entirely new name for themselves, which also is a legal option in the UK.

>
> In my personal case it was a choice between Kobylarz and Tait. Which to
> me isn't a choice. :-)

A friend of mine with a long surname used to say that when she got married, if her husband had a shorter name that came earlier in the alphabet than hers, she'd change to it. He did and she did. :)

Ellen, writing in Wales. We're off to Raglan Castle on the morrow for an SCA event. (Pennsic has fake castles. We have real ones over here. :)

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Re: writers rant

On 8/7/2014 4:48 PM, Sibyl Smirl wrote:
> On 8/7/14 2:48 PM, Jette Goldie wrote:
>> On 07/08/2014 19:10, Sibyl Smirl wrote:
>>>
>>> This detective, and the young cub cop, and an elderly woman who knew
>>> the "mysterious stranger" (female) character way back when, can none
>>> of them figure out why, in the course of fifty years, a woman might
>>> change her surname! (Well, I might be maligning the elderly woman:
>>> she just says, "A different name? How odd!"). Personally, I don't find
>>> it either odd or inexplicable. The usual reason why women have
>>> different surnames than those they had fifty years ago seems fairly
>>> obvious to me! Of course, one of my cousins changed her surname five
>>> times in fifty years. I myself wear a different name than I had at
>>> nineteen.
>>>
>>
>> Under Scots law women do not lose their surname on marriage.
>
> US women don't have to, either, but most of us choose to -- those who
> bother getting married, anyway, which seems to be fewer every year. It
> still bothers me that _none_ of the three who mentioned "Why would she
> change her name?" even considered that she _might_ have gotten married
> and done so. Turned out that the different name was a stage name.
>

Actually, most of the women I know do NOT change their names, especially
if they've already got a decent career going. Or they hyphenate.

In my personal case it was a choice between Kobylarz and Tait. Which to
me isn't a choice. :-)

> But what really did bug me most was the "Piled higher and Deeper" of all
> those characteristics of the "Cozy Cat Mystery". I still can't think of
> even one that she missed.
>

You never answered if this was a self-pubbed book or not. I'm really
curious!


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Re: writers rant

On 8/7/14 2:48 PM, Jette Goldie wrote:
> On 07/08/2014 19:10, Sibyl Smirl wrote:
>> Okay, I guess I'm free from the guideline not to say anything
>> negative. I'm feeling negative at the moment.
>>
>> I'm just finishing (78%) a Kindle Cozy Fantasy (ghosts) Feline (LOTS
>> of cats) Mystery, "A Spirited Tail", Leighann Dobbs. It's got _all_
>> the factors to make this kind of series book a runaway success! Not
>> just the aforementioned, but the detective is a middle-aged female
>> bookstore owner, with a misspent youth as a crime reporter, and a cop
>> boyfriend who won't tell her anything (or much, anyway) about his
>> cases, with whom she's occasionally frolicking in bed, but doesn't
>> know him very well, and wonders whether she's "falling for him". Oh,
>> and her sister is the Police Chief (who wants her OUT of Police
>> Business), and her sidekick experiments with herbal teas, occasionally
>> with disastrous results, or opposite results to those she intended,
>> but is forever confident about getting the personality alteration she
>> wants, and sneaking them into someone's tea without asking them
>> whether they want their personality altered. The protagonist also
>> occasionally converses with ghosts, and has two, Franklin Pierce and
>> Robert Frost, regularly haunting her bookshop. "Lincoln's Doctor's
>> Dog" was a piker, with only three sure-fire reader-attractants! (oh,
>> there's also a bereaved Golden Retriever)
>>
>> This detective, and the young cub cop, and an elderly woman who knew
>> the "mysterious stranger" (female) character way back when, can none
>> of them figure out why, in the course of fifty years, a woman might
>> change her surname! (Well, I might be maligning the elderly woman:
>> she just says, "A different name? How odd!"). Personally, I don't find
>> it either odd or inexplicable. The usual reason why women have
>> different surnames than those they had fifty years ago seems fairly
>> obvious to me! Of course, one of my cousins changed her surname five
>> times in fifty years. I myself wear a different name than I had at
>> nineteen.
>>
>
> Under Scots law women do not lose their surname on marriage.

US women don't have to, either, but most of us choose to -- those who
bother getting married, anyway, which seems to be fewer every year. It
still bothers me that _none_ of the three who mentioned "Why would she
change her name?" even considered that she _might_ have gotten married
and done so. Turned out that the different name was a stage name.

>
>> She uses the word "snuck" (which Mark Twain also used, but in his case
>> he was humorously pointing out the ignorance of the character speaking).
>>
>
> We use "snuck" in Scots English.

I've noticed that a lot of fiction writers use it too, including this
one. But I always get the implication of "ignorance" whenever I see it.

>
>> And the capstone of irritations: this detective has not Clue One about
>> the use of apostrophes!
>>
> along with about 80% of people, including professional journalists these
> days ;-)

See above. It's one of the many small symptoms of the world going to
hell in a handbasket

But what really did bug me most was the "Piled higher and Deeper" of all
those characteristics of the "Cozy Cat Mystery". I still can't think of
even one that she missed.


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